Contemplating prayer

I’m studying prayer at the moment. I’ve been considering prayer practice in different religions as an academic subject, and using what I learn from there to reflect on prayer within the Druid tradition. I am contemplating a book. Now, the old reconstructionists from the early days drew on the Christian prayer tradition, which most of us no longer do. There is a Celtic Christian that some more Christianly orientated Druids draw on. There are a few Iolo Morganwg prayers that seem to come up regularly, but unlike most faiths we do not (as far as I know) have a big body of formal prayer. If you belong to, or know about any Druid order or group that has a formal prayer tradition, please, please let me know.

If you are drawing on a body of written /shared prayer material, also, please drop me a line. If you don’t want to talk publically, but are willing to talk, leave me a message to contact you – from which I can extract your email addy and do it privately.

If you are working with the prayer approach of another tradition – one of those druidry-and scenarios, I would be really interested to hear about that, too.

Question-wise I shall leave it there for today because that could be enough to keep us all very busy. I have a lot more questions though, so expect to hear more shout outs over the coming weeks. I’d like to be able to include some sense of what the current druid approach to prayer looks like alongside the issues raised by the concept of prayer.

If I’m going to quote you, I will be in touch to find out who you want to be for the purposes of being quoted. If people want to remain anonymous, I can handle that. We can go the ‘some druids tell me’ route.

In the meantime, I’m slowly frying my brain with research. I figure this time I’ll do the research first then try and write something. Unlike Druidry and the Ancestors, where I got half way through and realised I needed to go back to the beginning and study a few things.

Also, if you’re not a druid and want to pile in, go for it, the more perspectives the merrier!

About Nimue Brown

Druid, author, dreamer, folk enthusiast, parent, wife to the most amazing artist -Tom Brown. Drinker of coffee, maker of puddings. Exploring life as a Pagan, seeking good and meaningful ways to be, struggling with mental health issues and worried about many things. View all posts by Nimue Brown

10 responses to “Contemplating prayer

  • AZyogi AKA Llew

    I use a technique drawn from the writings of Lloyd C. Douglas in his book Magnificent Obsession (and later the movie with Rock Hudsen) he uses the book of Matthew 6:3 . The basic postulation is that deliberate karma only works in secret. Deliberate karma is tangible prayer but forth to gain personal advantage. I say it poorly but Mr. Douglas took two novels to cover it very well. The second was the prequel Doctor Hudson’s Secret Journal. Alms or quests, given or taken in the Gods or Goddess’ name, if done in secret will be rewarded at a rate far exceeding the sacrifice. It works for me, but is surprisingly hard to do. Most recipients of alms or good deeds just can’t seem to keep their mouths shut.

  • Shalandar

    I have been a self taught Druid for the last 20 years. Sifting through others ideals, otherrituals religions, and using that which speaks to my soul. Personally I do not beleave in formality in prayer. I highly doubt our god and godess, loving and wise as they are, would care for pomp and circumstance. I speak to them quietly, often times alone, as if one would a parent. I wake each morning and thank our father for the day, and thank our mother for the night as well at the end of every evening. Now, rituals are another story entirely, and I have a system for magic that had to flow from my soul. That’s ritualed, but not to the point it’s more form than substance. If you want any more info, feel free to contact me.

  • Damh the Bard

    Hi Nimue,
    Feel free to drop me a line for a chat about prayer – damh@paganmusic.co.uk
    xx

  • John

    Try A Book of Pagan Prayer by Ceisiwr Serith. It’s a really good book that is all about prayer as it stood in the ancient world and how to compose your own prayers. It covers a wide variety of types of prayers, prayer postures, and include a boat load of prayers written by the author to various deities and spirits.

  • angharadlois

    I have left quite a few comments on the TDN thread about prayer, but found myself becoming quite reactive, as it became a journey of discovery coloured by the fact that my beliefs and practices seemed to be at odds with most of what was being voiced. My druidry is… tentative, might be a word; I would definitely place myself on the druidic spectrum, but as my practice has developed I have found myself moving in my own direction and frequently away from some of the more commonly expressed views within TDN. But I would be really happy to share any thoughts or practices I can 🙂
    I tend to use my own words, but there are some wonderful sources of inspiration out there – the Carmina Gadelica being a favourite.

  • Nimue Brown

    Haven’t been to tdn for a couple of days, will get in today and have a proper look. I’m very non-dogmatic, about my only dogma is that there is no one true way. I think there’s plenty of room within druidry for a multitude of perceptions. And from a writing perspective, diversity is far more interesting than homogeny. 🙂

    • Shalandar

      I am making sure to follow this thread, as the topic interests me greatly. I agree with you completely and would like to add that I feel that one’s prayer time is an intimate affair. To me, true communion should be as individual as the person. For example, I have several friends, one I spend most of our time together playing games, another I spend pouring over gnostic gospels and hidden religous texts, decoding and interpreting. While they are both close friends, ones I would do anything for/with, our general discussion is totally diffrent. One seeks the friend in me for general recreation, the other seeks the old man in me for my wisdom and guidance, not to mention he loves trying to give me a puzzle I can’t unlock. I am the same guy, yet they both see me diffrently. This, to me, should be the essence of prayer. Same divinity, diffrent “hotline”.

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